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In this episode of the GeriPal podcast, hosts Dr. Eric Widera and Dr. Alex Smith talk with Dr. Shoshana Ungerleider about creating a cultural shift to the end of life experience. Dr. Ungerleider is the founder of End Well, a self-described movement that hosts events to bring together organizations and people from different backgrounds and professions to talk about end of life care. She is also a practicing internist at Crossover Health in San Francisco and is a leading advocate for palliative and end of life care.

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